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open, don't operate electric switches that will cause a spark. don't use your cell phone. use the cell phone outside or a neighbor's phone to call 911. get everyone out of the building, close the gas valve and forget it. don't open it up again. there is probably a leak and you will have troubles wait for pg and e to test it. what's the most important thing in an emergency? everyday, water. somewhere in front of the house you will see these. san francisco water department. how do you get in here? easy. a long screwdriver or pry bar. pull it this way and the whole thing will lift out. even if it's crusty you can get it out. that's what it looks like. that's brass covered water meter. there it is. how would you tell if water was leaking if the building without going in there? that thing woulding pegged. this guy would be spinning. here's how you shut it on and off. like the gas thing, the valve thing with the square head. there are a couple of ears. you lineup the 2 ears. there is a hole to put a padlock. if it's on ita in direction of the /phroe. flow. when it's off, these 2 lineup. the
we use this. a silly puddy you put on if you have things of value you don't want breaking in an earthquake, grab this. all hardware stores have them. anybody have this at home? >> this is, why is this a hazard aside from it being in an earthquake? most of the home it is built in the city before the 1850's was meant for one socket not for a stereo and everything plugged into it it was meant for one item. hazardous material. this draino and different things, read the labels. it's important to know what you have in the home in case somebody injest it. make sure you know what you have so you don't cross contaminate. you don't want to put bleach next to ammonia. in a disaster if /taeu break and mix, what will happen. you will have a hazardous material place in your house. how about this? the typical garage. most people don't have gas in the suburbs you do. if you have lawn mowers. store it low. gas fumes will creep down to the bottom. if you have to store gas, store it mostly full. if you have an empty gas container -- if you want to protect yourself put cords across it so it
sf and the pg&e offering and i don't know if that is sort of -- you talked about that internally i imagine but i think that would be a very important part of the roll out plan and the outreach plan is when that pg&e offering does come online how it will be talked about to the tar communities and the other groups that we will bring in down the road and i wanted to highlight that. i think that's important piece of the outreach program is how -- while staying within the bounds of the code of conduct -- >> right. >> how do we that and the 100% renewable and the 20% offering and really shows this is about a clean energy future. >> right and we will have the challenge of holding a potential customer's attention long enough to explain the differences as well and to educate on those nuances of renewable energy credit versus bundleeled kilowatt hours and it's complex and i don't know how long they will colerate -- tolerate us on the porch talking but that is a key part and the education component in order to survey them and what they think is an important part of it, so we will be conducti
environment, you don't know where they've come from or they've been in ship holds which is really hot, just as a number one rule, if you smell something plastic don't drink out of it. >> that's good advice. >> i have two questions, they're a little bit unrelated but the first one goes on the scheme of plastic, so plastic wrap, plastic bags, you know, it's great to say we should all use glass but we know what's used out there is plastic, and it's reusable, you can come up with all these ways to avoid it but there's plastic everywhere and it's accessible and cheap, so plastic wrap gets used a lot, there aren't that many alternatives that can do what plastic wrap does, i don't use a lot of it and it's harder to store things long-term and same question applies for the freezer, it's easier to put things in a freezer bag. >> so, a little tip for that is i do admit to using plastic bags, i reuse them and if something is not -- i don't use them for liquids and if something isn't somehow already kind of like a solid or whatever, parchment paper around that and then use the plastic just as the thing
-- and this is my initiative and if you don't do the right thing you don't look like what know what you're doing and that isn't cool and you didn't do your job that well, if we get in these ambassador programs and give them training and rigor and how difficult that moment can be you can transform a school because of the power of kids talking to each other. >> all right. do we have another question? >> i appreciate that point you have been making. been, wooing with the board and the foundation and launch the student advisory board and i think we need to get that training kicked in really fast and that's a point well taken, and i appreciate lee you showing that clip because it illustrates an important distinction that we need to make. we don't want to send the message to america that bullying is normative; that bullying is normal, and that clip illustrated that the school is sending that message, and there is a difference, an important distinction between the school sort of embodying and sending the message to the kids that bullying is just a part of growing up and believing that bullying in ou
to be a workshop. what happens in san francisco, people come here late and don't know the neighborhoods. and what is been going on in the neighborhoods. and it's the neighbors that can tell you. and i support the idea that you, since you were responsible for water and sewage, that you take charge. that is your responsibility. the water sheds is your responsibilities. so i am here supporting the residents from lake merced, because the lake is the most -- was at one time the most beautiful lake in any city. because i used to go over there and fish, i am a fishing woman. and i would like to continue. and i agree about although i do own a gun. but i don't believe that there should be a place out there where there is a park, where people are shooting bullets. bullets can go anywhere, because it don't have no name on it, in the direction it should go. i feel as though when i go and practice for my shooting, it's inside. it's not outside. and it's there in davis city. so i hope you listen to what the people are saying here. and support and be a part of which we are a part of you. and do the right thing.
of bicycle lanes and existing rights of way. i can't imagine being clearer than that. what i don't understand is just, again, how are you proposing we get around what is clearly stated statutory if that is the question. >> the preamble says minor alteration. in both exemptions, they have to be a minor alteration, and bike lane is listed as one of the examples of a type of minor alteration. but just because it's a bike lane doesn't therefore mean it's a minor alteration. it's a two-pronged -- basically the criteria it's got to be a minor alteration and then bike lane is listed as one of the possible types of minor alteration. but that doesn't mean every bike lane is a minor alteration. that was the -- as i understand it, that was the argument that the city made on the big bike plan and they got slapped down by the dort when they made -- court when they made that argument. >> president chiu: if i could respond to that the code refers to what is described as quote minor alterations for example new -- landscape, filling of earth and then it lists a number of minor alterations of land. again, coll
: thank you. >> about the categorical exemptions. >> president chiu: thank you. why don't we continue and continue the clock as well. >> howard shaf ner president speaking to the nuts and bolts that supervisor wiener asked about, first of all, in our briefing i think we've dealt with that quite a bit, and also briefing from our council. but first of all, you can't have categorical exemption when there's cumulative impact with another project and that would be the case with the masonic -- project. the planning department itself sis in their brief the cumulative impact is the streets and their vicinity affected by the project. masonic is the major north-south thoroughfare and fell and oak are the major east-west thoroughfares. masonic has 32,000 motor vehicles a day it's a few blocks from baker street. in fact, they were going to remove a bus stop on central, which is only one block from masonic. the masonic project would remove all street parking on both sides of masonic for over half a mile including through fell street around 171 parking spaces reduce travel lanes on masonic during m
that is smaller or comparable to other homes in the neighborhood. with regards to the petition, we don't know what the dr requester told the people who signed this. if they have concerns, they should have expressed them in the nine months since we had the 311 meeting. we haven't heard from any of them. we made efforts to reach out. we are a family of six and required by code to maintain two units. it's not a superunit. we believe we have been more than reasonable and we request that the project be approved as submitted. >> thank you. are there any other speakers in favor of the project sponsor? >> dear commissioners and president, yasir and i are husband and wife. we are working parents. we have four children. so i hope this actually works. it's on my iphone. we have four children. our oldest son is right now attending city college and taking courses from there. we have two daughters going to city public elementary school. and we have a little boy who is 4 years old going to preschool and if we stay in the city, he will be going to the same school as our daughters. so we have been renting in t
and i don't know it just grew on us and we wanted to come back. >> good job peter. >> three, two, one. >> a 6-year-old girl. >> a girl, 12 and eight. >> it's been a very small community and then there was a flood a long time ago and a lot of families were put out. >> it was a scene of frantic desperation. hundreds of alvisa residents trying to save their homes from flooding. some people threw their bodies against the wall of the water trying to fight it back. >> we did see it on television. one of my daughter's her mother- in-law volunteered at the library and asked us to come out at christmas, that is how it started. they knew we had a fantasy. >> seeing their faces light up when they see santa is just something that, it breaks me up. >> you can choose whatever you want. >> it gives us such satisfaction. a gift that i think keeps giving to all of us. >> ready, big smile. ho, ho, ho. >> merry christmas. >> for many faiths this is a season of reflection. hanukkah is an eight day jewish holiday also known as the festival of lights. one temple in san francisco takes the lights of the man
on that item and i don't know when that date would be. you would have a full public hearing with notification and you would have full discretion as you do for any other action that you take this. is no different than any other action you would be able too take on a project to approve, disapprove or approve with conditions. >> thank you very much. i think this is a very good project as it moves forward. i understand some of the concerns. the first issue that has been raised a couple of times is the benefits and i think it does give a lot back to the community. and i don't think it's proper to differentiate between types of people and reward one particular project over another. i think just because it's a market-rate project doesn't mean it's not beneficial for a neighborhood. we heard some of the things given back. the community room, the car-share spaces, the three community spaces and the trees that were mentioned that are planned to be planted along both larkin and clay street with maintenance included. and the fact that the project sponsor has worked with the neighbors to try to decreas
on the block and don't want to be in conflict with our neighbors and we're putting in tremendous time and effort and money to address neighbors' requests to the point that nothing we can do to make the project viable. if you can see the plans is not to build a luxury home, to indulge ourselves, but simply to be the family of two parents and four children, so we can grow as a family and raise our children in the family and maybe we can finally give our children the dog they wanted for so many years because as a renter, you cannot even have a pet. this has been an emotionally and financially draining process for us. i just hope and i trust the commissioners can judge our case by the facts, and assure us when we followed the requirements, followed the rules, followed the process, did everything that we could, that there is an end to this and there is a justice to the end. and the process is not being abused. thank you is all for me. thank you. i really appreciate you staying so late and taking this case. we have been waiting this for days. >> thank you. any other speakers in favor of th
to go that way. okay, you want to go my way. 1, 2, 3. >> okay, why don't you stop. >> 1, 2, 3. >> make sure your back is straight. >> basically when you are using a ladder out there, make sure you keep the ladder 10 feet away from wires. make sure the ladder is secure, that it's on stable ground, that it's even. if it's on a hill, we really don't want you to use it on a hill, but if it's on a hill, make sure it's shimmieed with something stable. make sure it's at the right angle, we suggest 70 degrees. if you stick your hand on a rung, the angle of the ladder is about the right angle there. never let go of the ladder. stand in the center, climb straight up. if you climb on the edges of the rung, the ladder will go this way. look up so you know where you are going and you can see where you're going to climb. walk vertically. don't step off to the side of the ladder. kind of common sense. make sure you read chapter 7 through the . >> this class is managing a disaster. what happens and how do we fit in? emergency operation plan, everything is going to go through the mayor. you have the of
, for that wonderful introduction and i don't know where you got the ease of coming to the mayor's ofrs, there was no ease on that. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining together here at the presidio with all the different agencies. i see phil ginsburg, i know bill is around, others from our da office, richard caranza and others from the women's status as well and the district attorneys from the various counties, the school administrators and instructors and superintendents from other counties as well, as well as our community-based agencies that are so invaluable it all of us. this is a very important topic and it's one that our u.s. attorney, melinda hague and i helped spearhead yesterday with 800 students who came together who watch an incredible film by lee hirsch i've heard the wonderful reports from the kids, seen their laughter and their tears. we are going to honor your making that film by doing what we need to do to stop bullying across the country. because the data shared by our u.s. attorney, representatives from the department of education confirm if we don't do an
. if you don't want to be part of the cleanpower sf program and you tell us that there is no departure charge that a customer incurs that we are charging. after the program is launched if you then decide -- oh i got my first cleanpower sf bill. i don't want to be part of this program. we are still as the city saying there is no charge to depart from the program at that point. pg&e doesn't have a fee to exit the program during that portion of the time either. >> they don't have a fee that charge it's. >> the fee that we do include and maybe what you're referring to is the cost responsibility surcharge where if a customer leaves pg&e's bundedel service and comes to a cca pg&e will take a portion of the fees they used to charge that customer and those fees will follow the customer so the bill premiums that i am showing here include that as part of the premium so this is all in image of how your bill changes even though it's something we're not charging and pg&e is charging and they joined the program we're including in the numbers so it's transparent to customers. >> and that fee is r
choose to, but i don't think there should be a regthat provides in the absence of a commission decision to the contrary. i think there are really different powers and duties and i wouldn't want to complete those. i think i have said enough for the moment. thanks. >> respectfully i disagreeing with member pillpa with respect to burden of proof, with respect to chapter 2. the fact that the matter has been referred from the task force means that the task force has found a violation. perhaps a willful one. and i think that the burden of proof should definitely rest with the resplendent in that case. as a matter of fact, i think that if you recall, when the task force refers we're not looking for re-adjudication. again, we have five new members and it's possible that consensus would change. but when this matter has come before you, before us, with the task force previously constituted, the consensus and a very strong consensus of the task force has been we're not sending matters to you for readjudication. we're sending them for enforcement of our orders of determination. >> i agree. the po
. because many states don't have anything at all and the stuff is just thrown out all over the place if you are driving across the country. they are looking at this particular law as a value and it's funny we're the real odd duck in california because of our density. there is no place else quite like san francisco. >> okay. commissioner ortiz-cartagena? >> i just have one question to clarify some thoughts in my head. i live in the southeast sector of the city. my impression is that we are not in a convenience zone, because there is no supermarket, excluding a 7-eleven that meets the criteria of the revenue mark. so i think it might have been answered, but i'm not clear. all of those small businesses, all of those conveniences stores, do they have to pay the $100 or they are not in a convenience zone? >> actually the southeast sector and the whole eastside of the city is served by scrapyards and existing metal recyclers. >> okay. >> so they can establish a zone there and that creates nearby what is called "nearby convenience." that kind of exempts the supermarkets. >> okay. >> so you
, then to go through the process because you don't need to go through planning and all those only if the building department charge a minimum charge for the permit only. you want to say something? >> as a point of information, i just asked deputy director dan lowry what he would approximate for a simple installation and he said about $250 for the cost of the permit. that's an approximate without having specifics. >> yeah, that sounds like that's more than what it could be. >> that's per closet? >> that would be for the permit, not the cost of materials or labor. >> my point is it sounds like it would cost more to pull the permit than to actually do the work. >> commissioner walker. >> i think -- i would suggest these are issues that we prioritize and we do what we can to limit the cost to the owners of the residential hotels as a way of encouraging them to do it. so i think that, i would feel that that would be something that would do is to limit the cost of the permit. personally. >> let me add, i just mentioned that because -- i'll let the staff decide and figure it out and m
an abuse of the public trust to do this. these situations don't -- aren't there any more, okay. >> it looks to me like they are. >>> see, you're reading. that's abuse -- you're the public, you're abusing your trust. you're reading this on the paper so you think it must be true. but i've showed you the revocation, okay. that's city hall. i guess that doesn't count, right? >> it doesn't pertain to the issue that is in front of us. >> it does. >> commissioner mel gar? >> you know, i feel like i want to put this into a context a little bit. being a landlord is a business. a businesslike running a restaurant or any other for profit enterprise. and you do it according to rules. and i realize that you want to be in the business. but, you know, we have codes for a reason. because people are doing the job that they're supposed to do, that the taxpayers hire them to do doesn't mean that they are abusing the public trust. so, we do have in front of us pictures. we have records. we have all sorts of evidence. you are telling us that things aren't so and you presented very little evidence to the contrar
him to invoke federal law in order to invoke a cooling off period. i don't know what the likelihood of that is. i don't know what the president might do. do you think he would -- >> wow. that's a lot of red. >> you step out. you like to step out. you like to make statements, right? >> it's the holidays. >> i'm aware of that. >> you're wearing a red tie today. >> a shirt and a tie. that's usually what i go with, some type of shirt, some type of tie. no bells and whistles. this is your thing. whether you have bracelets -- one of those things is measuring your heart right right now. how is it? >> it's measuring my -- >> your calorie intake? >> my pressure goes up when i'm with you. well, no, this is the jaw bone. >> is it a measure of calories? >> calories, walking, sleeping, rem sleep, how much i shept last night. >> and calories. >> calories. >> if you wore it on your left wrist, would there be less calories, do you know? >> i will test that for you. >> test it out. gasoline prices. you know what i want to ask you? do you employ lobbyists at all? >> no. >> not at all? >> no. >> but w
is to talk through what the different methods are. >> yes. >> we don't get to the level of detail of actual scripts but we do have examples of the questions we will be asking and the information we will be providing, and this bill premium chart is a good example of just the level of detail we can provide customer when is we talk with them because we will know what tier they're in and can say what your typical bill is like today and what it would like if you stay with the cleanpower sf program. >> it's deeper than the cost. some people see the value and investing in a sustainable future. >> right, and so talking about the product. >> and this is put on. look you will see the increases in your bills and then people might be inclined to opt out if they're not reminded of the value behind the clean sf program. >> i understand and i take your guidance. thank you. >> we have -- go ahead. >> thank you. one of the issues reading through the material was the issue -- it's really an issue of auditing and that is who will determine the pass through cost that pg&e shifts to its shareholders versus t
to be making a film on working with school resource officers and how to work with students. we don't believe we should even call anyone a bully because once you get labeled it stays with you. i've gotten letters saying there's a bully in my kid's first grade. the statistics show that about a third of the kids are bullied and bully others. as one kid said, i wanted to man up and show i wasn't going to be bullied so i did it to anyone else. breaking that cycle is going to be exciting and it's exciting to hear that restoretive justice isn't just on the fringe, that whole school districts are taking them on. it's going to be a process to do that because part of the anti-bullying movement is you go online, you see stomp out the bully, get the bully. it's important we all kind of take a stand on that. we all need to learn how to treat each other and change our behaviors. >> thanks, becky, unfortunately that is in in terms of questions because i hate to be the person to stand between you and lunch. we will take about a 20-minute break, you should all be back in your seats by about 12.20, if yo
packed manger square in bethlehem. >>> authorities in western new york still don't know why an ex-con set fire to his house and then shot firefighters as they arrived two died in the ambush and two others were wounded. jim axelrod reports. >> reporter: as the four firemen arrived to fight the fire, they were met with gunshots. >> we are being shot at. multiple firemen shot. i am shot. >> reporter: two of the men died instantly. two were wounded. >> be advised i'm snuck the lower leg, the knee area and the lower left back. >> reporter: the gunshots prevented the first responders from putting out the fire. seven homes were consumed by the flames. >> it is still an active investigation, but at first blush it appears that it was a trap. >> reporter: the webster police chief said that william spengler likely set the fire intentionally and waited to ambush the first responders. spengler spent 17 years in prison for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer in 1980. when police surrounded his position monday, he shot himself. the flag at the webster fire departmen
asked. what is the time frame? when will we have those figures? it seems premature if we don't have those and seems like we're misleading the public. >> right. we don't do that until we have the rate. >> the not to exceed really will allow. >> by january we will have those numbers. >> we're not surveying people in january. >> okay. >> we're still isn't notification and education phase at that point. we're not proposing to serve a customer until october under this program. >> okay. i guess i am wondering if we're surveying people do we have these actual rates and not to exceed rates in place -- otherwise we shouldn't be surveying people if we're misleading them. >> we don't serve anybody -- >> i mean surveying. >> oh surveying. excuse me. >> okay. >> i don't see the point to surveying people if we're creating some kind of maybe anxiety or fear around these rates that may not end up being the reality. >> so i just wanted to point out that the reason we're surveying is to measure the appetite of what that price point is, and so what we're seeing -- >> okay. >> what number would be
don't know if you can see it in the details here but the original shows the measurement of 39 feet 11-inches and the new one, showses a measurement of they have feet however the measurement of 37 feet is here. and so it's 37 feet 9-inch and is so it's only a 3 feet reduction and 9-inches matters and i'm frustrated that they told us 3 feet and their own plan shows that it's not and furthermore the top floor is increased in length and the superficial appearance of shrinkage and it looks like it got a little smaller and bring up -- let's see here we go i'll show the ordinary care first and then you new and so they pushed the building out further over the sidewalk and pushed it back ask so the top increased a little bit and the bottom increased by 6 feet really significant and they left it for me to discover and so after looking at this proposals that their treating ancompromise that i brog good f to them. >>> in which way did it increase towards the back or the personal property. >> the top story was increased towards the back. >>> and then anything on the bottom? >> on the bo
caused. so i ask you to please, when -- i know you usually don't look at these or talk about them and they just fly by, but please when it comes before you, please consider page 71,10th person on the list of separations and please consider that there is either an error of some kind or something is wrong here, because miss olsen has specifically, formally and legally required to have this intent to resign rescinded. thank you very much. >> thank you. so item g consent calendar. is there a motion and second on the consent calendar? >> move the consent calendar. >> second. >> okay. any items withdrawn for correction by the superintendent? >> good evening, commissioners. there are two items. first remove item 2j, page 31. that is 12-12-c2 from consent calendar. it will be taken up for action at a special meeting being held next week. the next is correction to page 71. item 4a. 1212-11f13. and it's the 10th name on the list. effective date should be 11/30/2012 and not 11/17/2012. >> anything items removed by the board? commissioner maufas? >> i would like some guidance on item 4
in the meeting slots that we don't have to do workshops. but i think we need to make time to have a thoughtful discussion in those areas. >> both this commission and the state legislature on a road to recovery, for the first time that the legislature will take up a two-year budget. and interesting to see how they will operate in that scenario. commissioner. >> yeah, i want to echo, i actually think, i don't want another meeting either. if we can do it in the context of these meetings, i think it would be great. but i think we want to have a mid-cycle conversation targeted on these things. and this capital piece as well, because things change and perhaps capital needs that we put out 10 years and need a closer look. and without a course correction it's important to take a high-level view without going line by line of the budget. and someone will have to give here because this is happening. or maybe this cca budget piece could be a bit of a drive or two. and how that shifted the dollars around. and i like the idea, of this strategic goals and updates and key policy initiative updates. i don't re
their bikes in. alternatively, if owners don't want to allow their tenants to bring their bikes in, they are required by the environment code to provide bicycle parking space. our proposed ordinance allows such attorneys owners to comply with the code. any property that has not complied with environment code by august, 1 2013 deadline they will be out of compliance and if this ordinance is adopted they would have to comply with the updated bicycle parking requirements as defined in this ordinance. finally, the zoning administrator would also be able to modify, waive and provide variances for bicycle parking under certain circumstances. in cases where off-street car parking is not provided. overall, no variance would be given when automobile parking exists, or proposed in the building. this concludes my presentation. we are pleased to present this to you today. this ordinance would help the city to satisfy the increasing need for bicycle infrastructure. sufficient bike parking would help make biking a convenient choice for commuting. >> we have receive some support and comments fr
would like to thank todd and art for the wonderful work. because you know, normally we don't hear them. but it's time for us to acknowledge their good work and to thank them. thank you very much. >> thank you, any other public comment on item 10? seeing none. public comment is closed. the item has been moved and seconded. commissioners. all in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> the ayes have it. the motion carries. madam secretary, the next order of business. >> item 11, authorize the issuance of task orders above the initial $100,000 allowness approved at the october 9 commission. >> julia ellis, with this item we are asking the commission to authorize staff to move forward with task orders with davis & associates communications are for marketing services for the cleanpowersf program. at your previous meeting you asked for less than 100,000. and asked how the uses would be utilized. based on that draeirection, we worked on this plan to ensure that san francisco residents are fully informed by the cleanpower program. and we worked with staff and mayor's office and board of supervi
you are daoeg with the mental health community i don't think that using tasers on them, unless the circumstances is the best way to go about it. >> thank you. >> >> before the next speaker i will call out a few more karls. >> wilson, miller, alicia rubin aver and cavera and perez and buller. >> thanks. >> hello, my name is gary and i am from the san francisco drug users union and my comment is going to be short and sweet. this argument over non-lethal tasers and non-lethal protection for the officers and up against the mentally ill and challenged, has been going on for years. tasers are as lethal as any gun, a gun is just as non-lethal as a tase and her if you spent half of the money that you have spent on conversation, debates ps, surveys and documentation and a little meetings like this, back into the mental health facility and the hospitals and the non-the homeless shelters and get these people off the street, these officers are going to have not have half of the problems that is where the money should be going instead of the ridiculous conversations. thank you. >> thank you
of conversations before. at this point i don't think that we're ready to take up this project. i think that there is a lot of work to be done. the adjacent buildings points out a lot of problems and mr. schoolneck pointed out things are moving, but there are things to be done. i don't think you can necessarily arrive at a quick resolution after so much time and effort has been put insofar. it's a shame that a lawsuit is what was required for the project sponsor to work the community. i think this seems to be heading in the right direction, but it's certainly not there. i think there is a lot more dialogue that needs to happen between the developer and the community. i don't think there is an urgent need for us to take this up in the immediate future. i recognize that the termination of this might be a different project, but it's fundamentally still a market-rate housing project of similar type and scope. so i can understand why people could feel that we should wait a year on this. more than anything, i just want to encourage the developer to continue to work with the community and to
number that would be nice. who is the safety person? we don't want to send people out, just hey, go do this. we want to keep track of it. if they don't come back within a couple hours we have to send somebody to find them or at least checkup on them. if we don't know where they went and who they are, you have chaos. they might be hurt and they're going to stay hurt. we're going to roll on to disaster psychology. what does that mean? when people go through a disaster, their lives are wrecked. i saw this firsthand, i went down to help out with katrina thing in september. it's weird. because you are dealing with people that lost everything and it's kind of hard to imagine that if you haven't done it yourself. basically, you know, she's looking at her curtains here, she probably hand-stitched those things. maybe they have been hanging there the last 5 or 6 years. everything in the house is wrecked, photos, keepsakes, it's a tough thing. and people deal with this kind of stress in different ways. we as disaster workers, we see it all the time. but we have a word we use, professional. we try
will be here for any questions. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> why don't we take a few clarifying questions first or public comment? >> public comment. >> let's take public comment on this item. seeing none, public comment is closed >>> commissioner antonini. >> thank you, i had a couple of questions on the memo. and i am led to believe when i first saw this, i thought it was the entire program. but this is only a memo dealing with the resale of existing ownership units and then dealing with the other entities here. for example, as i recall unless it's changed, your for-sale ownership units are 100 ami and it can be up to 120 in some instances, but i believe it's always been at 100 ami has been the price for-sale units. and then the rental units at 60 ami? >> that is correct, but there has been adjustment. there are two ami tables that we use in san francisco. there is a tri-county, or three county ami table. at one point the board of supervisors directed us to use a san francisco-specific table and given the relative wealth of our adjacent counties to the south and north, san francisc
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